The OO marking was replaced with an "O in circle marking"in very early 1930's. Onbarrels, initially it was stamped in the rear sight base area or further to the front sight area (onthe bottom). In 19351936, the 91/30 was again modified, this time to lower production time. [citation needed] However, despite a lack of both aesthetic focus and uniformity, the basic functionality of the Mosins was unimpaired. for the use or application of material found on this site. Socket bayonet for use with the 7.62 mm. This was used since mid 1943 at the Izhevsk factory instead of paper cards, whichwere used earlier. . Installation of slot-type sling mounts to replace the more traditional swivels. without the written permission of the owner and the It is . Initial bullet velocity test rifle CK marking. Military representatives controlled quality of the produced firearms/parts. Izhevsk pre-1935 quality control proof marks looklike a single letter or number, later ones look like different figures with number or letters inside. Generally, all these replacementparts were marked with the letter "H" . . Those from Tula were stamped CH (or CU) on their barrels along with Tula's standard Mosin markings to designate them as specially built snipers. This system of numbering did not allow estimating (even roughly) a particular weapon's production period. Model: 1939 (M39) Serial Number: 201912. Taking into consideration that Nagant was one of the few producers not engaged by competitive governments and generally eager to cooperate and share experience and technology, the Commission paid him a sum of 200,000 Russian rubles, equal to the premium that Mosin received as the winner. Overall length is 40.4 inches, barrel length is 20.47 inches, front sights are wire pin post, rear sights are graduated 100 to 1000 meters. At the beginning of the war, the MosinNagant 91/30 was the standard issue weapon of Soviet troops. Finland was a Grand Duchy in the Russian Empire until 1917, so Finns had long used the MosinNagant in service with the Tsarist military. number and property marks as well as various found on this site. During the earlier period, since 1919, Izhevsk used a "wheat with hammer and sickle" stamp on the barrel shank, receiver, and stock. Henceforth, the new Bolshevik government of Vladimir Lenin cancelled payments to the American companies manufacturing the MosinNagant (Russia had not paid for the order at any time throughout the Great War). At first the markingwas quite small compared to the older" in circle", sometimes it was stamped atthe bottom of the barrel shank. Make: WWII Finnish Sako, Model: M39 Mosin Nagant, Serial # - Firearms: 254216, Caliber: 7.62x54r, Barrel Length: 27" round, Condition: Very Good, Other: bolt action rifle. The Nagant M1895 revolver can be suppressed because the cylinder gap is elimated when fired in double action. . 1919, M91 1919 - History. There is a rumor that there were a few 1943 Tula made M44's but I have never seen one in person. stampings. Model 1907 Rifle: M1907/Carbine - One of the rarest Mosin's made. Add to Compare. MosinNagant rifles and carbines saw service on many fronts of the Cold War, from Korea and Vietnam to Afghanistan and along the Iron Curtain in Europe. Afactory matching rifle font should look the same on all parts (however because of the different angles of the application of the stamp, small visual differences are possible). Final acceptance markings from to the post 1930 period will be described below, the pre 1930 period will require its own descriptionbecause those markings were veryvaried. According to 1930 M91 production standard, the final military representative acceptance marking was stamped intwo locations - on the front left side of the barrel shank, above the wood line, and on the right side of the buttstock, near the factory emblem. Regardless of the conversion, a qualified gunsmith should examine the rifle before firing, and owners should use caution before firing commercial ammunition. ); Now more details about these markings groups. orly. Conditions will vary between Very Good to Excellent surplus condition rifles, to rifles that are missing parts, to . Izhevsk At this time, the Tula factory already stopped M91/30 production (in 1942 it was restrored at another factory, more details in "Manufacturers and production numbers" section) whileIzhevsk replaced " in circle" black powder test marking with a "Y in circle" marking. Dec 14, 2013. Untilthe end of the 1930's the serial number was stamped after rifles wereaccepted by a military representative. The Mosin PU sniper rifle was built by two primary Russian arsenals, Tula and Izhevsk, and most true World War II-era PU sniper rifles were turned out from 1942 to 1944. The front sight is a post that is not adjustable for elevation. Poland, China T-53. The same placement of themarkings is mentioned in later instructions. Factories always produced large numbers of replacement parts (and stocks also), which were used by repair depots and field armourers during a rifles maintenance, repair and refurbishment. 1928, M28 1928 - Mosin Nagant M44/ M38 Handguard, *Good* . The owner, the site host or any The stock comb was a typical area for these markings, during the postwar refurbishment process similar markings were placed there. Photo courtesy of Ryan Ellott. Copyright Darryl Boyd 2011 - Early production 91/30s (from 1930 to 1936) and converted Dragoon rifles retained the octagonal receiver. Actually, the article on Mosin-Nagant rifle and PPSh41 and PPS43 smg refurbishment facility marks is page 429 through 433. barrels, Sako On the left - 1918-1928 type, in the middle - 1928-1940 type, on the right - 1942-1944 period. Year stamps are quite visible. In addition to the overhaul of used rifles, factories used some recycled parts in production. collector. [52], Other companies are experimenting with detachable, and semi-permanent magazine extensions which would increase the magazine capability from five rounds to ten rounds.[53]. Thesame hammer was used onthe stock. Those markings are O and letters in a circle (but not those that are stamped on the barrel shank), these markingsmean "" (tested) and "" (pressure). These marks indicate SKY -- Finland Civil Guard mark. These rifles were mainly produced from defective parts, they were not functional - it was not possible to fire them. During fieldtests, shooting was done at a 100 meter distance, with the rear sightset to 300 meters. of marks from a variety of origins, Mosin Nagant Import MarksPictures and The arsenal marks of The owner, Both factories stamped it on the front left/mid part of the barrel shank. With the start of World War I, production was restricted to the M1891 dragoon and infantry models for the sake of simplicity. Circle U -- unknown Russian mark. When the newly created factory #536 in Tula started production in 1942they continued to use the prewar pattern " in circle" marking, but in fact, the rifles were tested using the VD cartridge. Steel lot number onthe barrel. 1926, M91 1926 - This is what the receiver markings on a Remington-UMC rifle are supposed to look like. With the Finnish M39 Mosin Nagant craze sweeping many new collectors and reinvigorated with established collectors in the US, I jumped on the bandwagon and added these two M39s to the M39 Wing of the Mosin Nagant Annex at the Gear Report secure gun storage facility. Reserve office school equipment post WW2 RUK-museo 2.JPG. It was adapted for sniper use by adding a telescope. Many Izhevsk produced carbines and rifles (especially those produced in 1941) have a visible T in an oval marking. It used the same cartridge and action as other Mosins, but the barrel was shortened by 21.6cm (8.5in) to bring the weapon down to an overall length of 101.6cm (40.0in), with the forearm shortened in proportion. ST. ALB. The chart itself was enclosed in a handbook that explained each of the 16 segments of the chart. I can try to email it to any interested parties, if interested. The above mentioned factory emblemswere used on rifles and carbines in the 1930's and 1940's, they were adopted in 1928when both factories changed their emblems, comparedwith their earlier ones. There were also minor modifications to the bolt, but not enough to prevent interchangeability with the earlier Model 1891 and the so-called "Cossack dragoon" rifles. Most people that are into the Mosin game know about the Mosin Nagant M91. It is known that Tula used many parts from Izhevsk and . This clearly indicates that rifle was not tested at the factory, and that the barrel and receiver, when they left the factory, were not a partof the complete rifle. Terrible time to be without my camera. (Photo: Evan Duffy) The Mosin-Nagant M44 carbine is a derivative of Russia's battle . Non refurbished factory original condition rifle. Markings and stamps differ and are in in different places. Izhevsk factory "triangle in arrow marking". Markings about a specific rifle/carbine configuration (training, sniper, etc. Elimination of the steel finger rest behind the trigger guard. MosinNagants have also seen action in the hands of both Soviet[24] and Mujahadeen forces in Afghanistan during the Soviet Union's occupation of the country during the 1970s and the 1980s. In some ways, the astronomical prices of Garands, Mausers, and Enfields generated an increased demand for WWII-era pieces by younger collectors. Production began in 1892 at the ordnance factories of Tula Arsenal, Izhevsk Arsenal and at Sestroryetsk Arsenal. Rifle . Flat rear sights and restamping of sights in metres, instead of. 1922, M91/30 1930 - The M/28-57 was a biathlon 7.62x54mm version. The image onthe right shows an example of such alist. The font of the production year stamp was also different in different years. Significantly, the front sight of the M38 was positioned in such a way that the Model 91/30's cruciform bayonet could not be mounted to the muzzle even if a soldier obtained one. Onthe bolt cocking piece , they were onthe rear side of the cocking knob, and so on. Poland, Hungary, Romania, China, Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Marks of varying rarity, including their country of origin when known, Pictures illustrating the various serial numbering patterns of, Sizes, locations, and orientations of the SA, Pictures, data and information on this mark with a sortable data table, Pictures and information on import marks by various companies over the years, Do not sell or share my personal information, Finnish Marked Russian and Soviet Mosin Nagants. It served quite prominently in the brutal urban battles on the Eastern Front, such as the Battle of Stalingrad, which made heroes of such snipers as Vasily Zaitsev, Lyudmila Pavlichenko, Ivan Sidorenko, and Roza Shanina. in circle is a relatively earlier mark than O in circle, which was adopted according to the letter "B" drawings and should replace markings. This version of the marking was used by both factories. There is collector interest in the MosinNagant family of rifles, and they are popular with hobby shooters and hunters. Like most earlier milsurp rifles produced before WW1, they are long. In 1889 Tsar Alexander III ordered the Russian army to meet or exceed European standards in rifle developments with "rifles of reduced caliber and cartridges with smokeless powder. Before quality control markings were changed in, Onthe left - pressure test marking on the receiver, on the right - test marking on a bayonet (previously a , (in 1942 it was restrored at another factory, more details in. All factories always produced a certain quantity of training rifles. View PDF. 1944 dated hexagonal receiver, adjustable sights with the rear being a folding type and the front having protecting ears. There were two types of themilitary representative acceptance markings: - final acceptance, thiswas stamped after a rifle was assembled and adjusted by the factory (and accepted byfactory quality control),was then submitted for final inspection and passed it; While final acceptance markings are well-known, operational markings still require further research. As a result, the rifle was used on both sides of the Winter War and the Continuation War during World War II. M1891/30 Mosin-Nagant rifle. Not all rifles and carbinesissued by factories were just standard firearms produced with accepted drawings and technology. Numbers. The imperial pattern "bow and arrow" emblem was used as a part of the big factory emblem and as a small emblem. "O in circle" pressure test and "K in circle" accuracy test markings. Tikkakoski produced new barrels and the front sights were usually improved. This location for these kind of markings was used in the late 1930's by Izhevsk. But even at the princely sums of $300 or $400, the rifle is still worth every penny. Arsenal, M91 1891 - "[11] The new weapons would entail high velocities, exceeding 600 meters per second (2,000ft/s) and would result in land battles both commencing and being capable of being fought at longer ranges, nearly two kilometers. There are rifles andcarbines marked with another marking (they were for sure) but they still needto be discovered. They are all used and have used marks. Serial Number: 42952 Design: Ex Dragoon Russian M91/30 Mosin Nagant bolt action rifle. Towards the end of 1943, the majority of barrels already were beingproduced with button rifling, but a small quantity of them still had cut rifling. The more Barrel behind front sight and top of sight bladeM39. Only light ball ammo was used for accuracy tests, rear sight settings were counted also for light ball ammo. Condition can rate from excellent to abused. On the bottom - reblued rifle. [21] When war with Germany broke out, the need to produce MosinNagants in vast quantities led to a further simplification of machining and a falling-off in finish of the rifles. Turkey, United States, Yugoslavia, Unknown Mosin Nagant MarksMarks of varying rarity,